Being "Above Average" in School

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Two of my children (I've been sponsoring them for about five years) have recently had a status update to  "Above  Average' in school. Needless to say, I am a very proud sponsor since they always write to me that they are working very hard and school! I was just wondering how common this is, like what percentage of children are average, above average, below average, etc. Also, if my children are Above Average, does that increase their odds of being accepted into the LDP program? Can I encourage them to apply for this? Sorry for all the questions :)
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I am not an employee, so don't have percentages, but....I do see that my above average kids are, in fact, above average, and usually doing exceptionally well in school, as my one below average high school kid is struggling like everything to finish a few years late.  What I wanted to comment on, is no, you shouldn't encourage your child to apply for their LDP program, because they are discontinuing it (except for current LDP kids).  The graduating age has been changed to 22 for almost all the countries, so that more will have the opportunity to go to college, or to get some really great vocational training.
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Thanks for the info, Debbie! Do you know why LDP is being discontinued? This is the first I've heard of that. 
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Once again, not an employee, so I don't know their reasoning, but....I did have a correspondence kid that went through all the interviews to get into LDP, and didn't make it, so she left Compassion to go to school in a different city.  No idea whatever happened to her.  The LDP is just a select program, and so few people got into it, and now instead most of the kids can get into college if that's what they really want to do, and still maintain their time with Compassion.  I write to a bunch of college kids right now, and believe me, they aren't complaining.  The other thing, I think (once again, just guessing) was the sponsorship cost.  Most of us couldn't afford $300 a month for one kid, and if they did make it to LDP, it meant giving up a kid that we might have had a great relationship with.  But hopefully Compassion will answer, and give you the real answer :)
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Hi Katie! Debbie had a pretty good answer! :) The Leadership Development Program has been very selective. Our heart is to grow our leadership and vocational training and university education opportunities for more young adults, not just the blessed few that make it into LDP. While the Leadership Development Program is transitioning, our commitment to developing leaders is not. We will now incorporate youth development strategies into our Holistic Child Development Model within our Child Sponsorship Program (CDSP). Our approach for youth development, will seek to equip all beneficiaries with skills and education to
pursue their individual career goals, become productive members of their communities and realize their God-given potential. All current LDP students will be supported until they graduate, but we are not accepting new students at this time.
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Does this mean that my kids will be able to receive help to attend university if they otherwise can't afford it? If not, I'd like to help with their university fees/tuition...do you know if this is possible? Thanks for all the comments/information, Susan!
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I have also wondered what "above average means". I sponsor 2 children through the Canada site, and one is above average, the other is average. A few of my correspondents are above average as well. I haven't had a below average child yet.
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Hi Katie! Good question! I am checking on the percentages and will let you know what I find out. :)
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Thanks, Susan! I am looking forward to the statistics whenever you find them :)
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I have 31 kids that I write to. Only 2 or 3 are above average. All my other ones are average. They range in age from 5 to 19.
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What I found was that the school performance designation is a bit subjective as it is decided and recorded by the center staff based on how they feel that particular child is doing in school. However, the "Average" designation is given to the majority of our children. "Above Average" is the second most common designation, with "Below Average" being the least common. 



It also varies by country:

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This is so interesting! I didn't expect this detail - thanks so much! As a researcher, I love data :) Do you know why there is such variation? Do the centers in Colombia have more of an effect on educational outcomes than Bolivia, or are the workers just more prone to report kids a certain way?

I think that this would make an excellent blog post, by the way. 
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I wondered that too about Colombia since I have three girls there and two are "above average." Their letters reflect that though. I've also seen that my children from South American countries are much more advanced educationally than my kids in Africa. My 8-yr-old girl in Colombia writes long, detailed letters while my 8-yr-old in Kenya still has hers written by tutors, as does my 8-yr-old in Rwanda. I encourage all my kids in their education, but spend extra time and thought putting words into letters for my kids who are struggling in school. 
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Katie, I might just have to write a blog post then. :) Stay tuned! 
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Very interesting, Susan! Thanks for the information
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This is fascinating!!!  Could you also give a table of the "Below Averages" and the countries?  Thanks, Susan!
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Hi Jan! I'm working on another table to show this and will post it when I have it. 
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Jan, below is the data, but the variation again seems to be more a result of measurement error (like differences in interpretation or administration) than a true reflection of school performance in that country. 

 
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wow, cool.  My thinking is they don't post as many as below average because I think people are less likely to sponsor them.  I do have a below average older kid, and believe me, you won't find a kid that tries harder in school than she does.  But I have heard sponsors say, no I won't sponsor a below average kid. 
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I'm the opposite - I'd definitely want to sponsor a kid who is below average since education is very important to me (PhD student) and I'd love to pray for and encourage them with this. 
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Woohoo go CO!!! This is a really great question Katie!
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Thanks, Adam! I'd been wondering about it for awhile :)
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Thanks, Susan.  I have several that are marked as "above average" and several that are "below average."  It helps to see if their country is one that tends to have a preponderance in these categories, e.g. Honduras, Philippines for 3 of my "Below Average" kids.  I will be in Philippines in a few days and will try to remember and ask how they classify these things.  One of my "below average" children there is only in PRESCHOOL, so I wonder what the criteria might be for that...
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Have a fun and safe trip in the Philippines! I sponsor a child there too :) If you learn anything interesting, please share it here!
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I wonder who the children are being compared to?  Are they classified as "average" compared to other Compassion students, or compared to all of their local peers?  If so, it is not at all surprising to find countries where more than 50% of students are classified as above average.  Compassion kids get better nutrition and academic support than other students.  I laughed a bit when I saw that Colombia, where our newly sponsored child is, has 76% "above average."  But perhaps asking "compared to whom?" could explain the huge differential.  If Columbian CDC's are generally comparing to all students in local schools, that would make a lot of sense.  Regardless, this was helpful.  Thank you, Susan!
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Hi LJ! When we classify where a student falls in their school performance, we are looking at a comparison between that child and other students in the district or nation. It sounds like your child in Colombia is very smart! I know you'll be incredible at encouraging your kiddo to keep doing well and in praying over his or her schooling as well. I've heard numerous times that knowing their sponsor is proud of them and cheering them on made a huge difference in the child's desire to do well in school :).

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